I decided to play dress up

[transpao]

Again today.

I still think I make a better boy in make-up than not. But I put it to you. I'm actually showing myself here with no make-up and not all dolled up. what do you think? Do I look more manly in my jumpsuit or in my jeans or When I'm glammed out.




Don't ya'll love my Caterpillar hat I got in my horticulture class when the guy brought our skid-steer the other day.


And here is my jumpsuit. For all those dirty jobs.

Gothy me



I couldn't fix the red eye on this one so I'm just demon boy here.

Comments

[lai-lai-ranma.livejournal.com]

Either one. You still look awesome.

[paosparti.livejournal.com]

thanks. I can't help feeling like I just look like a chick in guys clothes when I dress like a "Real" guy.

[tarnneth.livejournal.com]

It sorta depends on your concept of masculinity. The jeans and jumpsuit pics remind me more of the farmer/mechanic guys I've seen. Growing up in the plains makes this a common member of the species. Let me say that if I met you in looking like that on the street, I'd have to rely on my physical antro training to guess your biological sex.

As for the more punky glam look, I'd likely assume andro and therefore equally likely to be male or female or a combo thereof. So it's not that you look more male in the latter photos, it's that you look more genderqueer. Meeting you in that case I would intentional avoid sex specific pronouns and not look for clues as to your bio sex. Doing so would be rude.

[paosparti.livejournal.com]

yeah but everyone doesn't have your sense of ... er propriety is that the word I'm looking for here? Its not everyday you meet people with your decency in regards to other peoples gender.

Though a lot of they problem may be in my own head. I have MtF friends that say its all too common to precise ones self as always looking too fem even long after you stop actually looking as such. Like my Friend who frightened many ladies in the restrooms because he was still using the ladies long after he passes... he ended up having to get a potty pass from his therapist due to the actual legality of being pre-op but to male to be in the ladies room.

I'm really excited though because it's hard to tell in the photos, but my chest was much more masculine in appearance this time... and it turns out all it really took was a too small sports bra and an ace bandage. Though I'm still going to get a shirt from underworks when I get the chance.

[tarnneth.livejournal.com]

I've bound in the past. Not doing it these days cause at some point soon I plan to get knocked up and I'd rather not hurt the possiblity of breast feeding. Means I'll have to wear a bra for a while. Ick. Funny how that bothers my male side more than the idea of being pregnant. Bearing a child doesn't seem too femmy but wearing a bra does?

Ok, I'm nuts.

And I know my concepts of gender and identity are odd. But damn it, they are also more polite. Why isn't gender something that you wait for confirmation on rather than assume?

[paosparti.livejournal.com]

well mainly I think its because too much of the world assumes gender is the same thing as sex, and it never even occurs to them that anyone could thing differently.

I think everyone's got there own idea about what makes you male or female. Like I said above some people think its got something to do with genitals, others think its got to do with reproductive capabilities, others think that there are male ways of acting, dressing, working vs. female ways of acting dressing and working.

Sometimes I wonder if boi me and other trans people simple pander to the ideas that there is a certain way to be male or female. As you might can see why I don't often voice this question even to myself.

[n9rozi.livejournal.com]

As far as more boyish goes- I think that both of the first ones are about equal- You make such a cute boy!! But I defiantely like the gothy pictures a lot. Especially the middle and last one!

[paosparti.livejournal.com]

boyish as in like an 8yo? Or just general maleness? Really do you think I could pass more if I dressed more manly?

Do you think that they goth dress makes me look less male, or do you think its that you've known me as a female looking like that that throws things.

I mean I like the goth look better, but I want to pass too.

[le-bizarre.livejournal.com]

In personally like you more in the gothy pics. Somehow also looks more boyish to me somehow... The only problem could be the hips... I also know that prob... -.-
And in the first pics you have a boyish attitude as well but not as much as in the gothy pics!

[paosparti.livejournal.com]

We seem to be the only people that think that way. I posted this in androgny_love and everyone there thought I looked more male in my non-goth stuff. I don't understand it.

Though I do think you are right and I have more of the male attitude and presence in the first photo. I like the jumpsuit photo mainly because you can tell the cloth is laying directly on my chest and it looks like I've got no breasts which is difficult for me to achieve.

[le-bizarre.livejournal.com]

Me neither... :/

I can keep the breasts flat easily, but I can hardly hide my hips...